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Published Date: 17 July 2008
THE British National Party has made a second bid for an alcohol and live music license for its summer festival due to take place in Denby next month.
Last month the party members walked out of a licensing meeting discussing whether to allow live music and alcohol at the event after Derbyshire Police raised late objections to it taking place.

Now a smaller application has been made, to enable the party to sell alcohol in a beer tent at the site on Codnor Denby Lane.

But police have again said they will object to the license as they still have concerns opponents of the British National Party may target the event.

If the new license was granted it would mean the the tent must not contain any more than 499 people and cannot remain open for more than 96 hours.

Event organiser Dave Shapcott said: "This license would just be for the marquee, not the event as a whole. I know the police are objecting again but we don't understand why."

Amber Valley Borough Council confirmed it has received a notice from the British National Party but only the police can object to the proposal and they have until Wednesday morning to do so.



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  • Last Updated: 16 July 2008 11:51 AM
  • Source: Ripley & Heanor News
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Dominic Tye,

16/07/2008 12:08:06
There is already plans for thousands of anti-BNP protestors to descend on our street, this is why the police are objecting, please gain some common sense, there are many people who do not like the BNP, granted you have some support in this area, but then why should we, the residents of Codnor Denby Lane be subjected to mass protests in our small rural community? If Chaos is caused or if for any reason ANY damage happens or we cant for some reason get off our drives or the road is blocked then there will be some extremely unhappy people. Just felt I needed to comment in response to the BNP saying they dont understand why the police are objecting because I would have thought it would be obvious
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Michael Clarke,

British National Party 16/07/2008 23:09:37
If people are gathering and causing an obstruction the police have the power to move them. Far better that they dont allow them onto Codnor Denby Lane in the first place.
Dominic, using these arguments to justify your stance against the BNP might seem logical at this moment, but try to imagine if it happened to an event you were keen to attend. Perhaps the Pentrich R & B that the police have objected to? Or if you hired the Parish Hall in Denby for your birthday party and someone was threatening to come and disrupt it - but instead of arresting those making the threat the police said your party could not go ahead?
Perhaps you might be a little miffed?
Your anti bnp views are noted and you are entitled to them, but please also respect peoples right to agree with the BNP and to attend a legitimate family orientated celebration of British Culture.
Please note: Last year the Festival passed off without incident. None of the fears regards trouble, noise or traffic chaos materialised, but the possible attendance of Labour and Trade Union supported thugs may have an effect. It should be those people to whom you direct your anger.
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John in Leicester,

leicester 18/07/2008 16:01:47
If thousands of people are expected to protest (there were 30 outside the BNP conference, until it rained)then the refusal of the licence has nothing to do with a licenece to sell alchohol within the festival.
Or will the so called demonsrators not turn up if the drinks licence is refused.
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metmum,

Ripley 18/07/2008 20:57:08
I don't agree with the BNP but I also don't think the objection from the Police has anything to do with any trouble that may be caused, its for the same reason that Pentrich has been objected to. From my understanding at one stage these sorts of events had to pay for any policing that was carried out but last year this was changed and now Police Authority have to pay for it. It takes a lot of money to police thses events and I don't think the Police Authority want to pay for it. I may be wrong and there may have been threats made about Pentrich but I bet the money part has a big influcence over matters as well.
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Big.B,

Ripley 22/07/2008 11:32:20
Although I do not agree with the BNP in any way at all I can see Michael's point of view and maybe the protesters should be stopped prior to descending on Codnor Denby Lane. But can you please explain to me Michael, if the event is to be a ' legitimate family oriented celebration of British culture' why does alcohol need to be available? Surely a family celebration can be enjoyed without drinking? It would show just how strongly the BNP feel about the family if they actually made the stance of 'No Alcohol' on site at all. I am not against drinking but do feel a 'family celebration' does not need this licence. Come on BNP, make a stance against those labelling you so negatively.
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John in Leicester,

leicester 23/07/2008 21:12:56
Big B fair comment, but dont all county show even village fetes have beer tent?
I can do without, and I shall be driving home so will abstain.
Come on this is 2008 not Marxist Russia 1970, or have I missed something.
If the BNP dont have a drinks licence will the Gordon Browns brownshirt Labour thugs stay away?
Wake up to the real facsist Britain and a politicised police state.
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Nina,

Notts 24/07/2008 13:30:26
As far as I know we are campaigning for a return to family values not for total prohibition.
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Big.B,

Ripley 01/08/2008 16:44:34
Please Nina do not think I am trying to campaign for prohibition. My point was simply that if something is aimed at the family and is being advertised as a 'family celebration' I thought it would have made a very strong point to say no to alcohol on this occasion.
And just to respond to john in Leicester, surely my comments do not link me with Marxist Russia?
We clearly do not live in a politicised police state otherwise we could not have a free and open debate between opposing opinion holders.
You are right, the brown shirt thugs as you described them will not be staying away wether or not beer is drunk. I am sorry people feel thugery is the answer wether they support the BNP or not. The great thing is we live in democracy and I for one am proud of that, we must never give into thugs and it is down to all who attend the festival to show that they are not meeting to cause trouble, to adhere to decent behavioural standards and prove they are not the thugs they are so often branded by others.
I am very strongly opposed to the BNP but would never resort to violence of any kind to air my opinions and would encourage others to do the same.
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John in Leicester,

leicester 04/08/2008 13:44:02
Big B, I did not intend to link you to Marxist Russia, my apologies if you thought that.
I agree with you totally about behaviour standards and I think if you delve deeper you may not be so strongly opposed to the BNP as you think.
As you say open and honest debate is the way. That's how we used to do things in Britain,sadly this is not always the way these days.
The R&H News is to be congratulated for keeping 'the door open' where so many other papers present a very one sided and distorted view.
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